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In fact, before reading this article, my perception of art is very weak. It can be said that I don’t have much understanding of art, including the reflections for me, but when I finish reading this After two articles, the arguments in the article gave me great enlightenment and some understanding of art. There is an argument in the article, that is, the author said that after contacting art, he can easily discover what his identity is. At the beginning, this argument was a little confusing to me. Why would I discover what my identity is after I came into contact with art, but when I read the content of the article later, I discovered that through art, we can reflect on ourselves. Who is it and what is life.
In fact, the whole world is imperfect, because we still have art. Why do we still have art? It’s because the real face of this world is not 100% perfect, so there will be art courses to discover or Create the perfection of this world, so we can discover what our life is through art, or what our world is, instead of just living in a realm, and some works of art can’t express ourselves. The whole life, or short-lived emotions, some of the paintings of some previous writers, many parts are works to express or to inform their own emotions. Later generations will find that the author is creating works. The feeling of being a person, and the future generations know their identity and living environment of that era. So art is a subject that can be used to prove one’s identity, including living environment

analysis of universal moral values

In my opinion, there is no universal moral value in the world. People reach universal values because they have the same views and understanding of what is good and what is bad, so that they will have the same values. Judging what is good and what is bad, but not everyone has the same moral values, because this is just the unified thinking of most people, and does not mean that everyone is an idea
I think the “fact” of morality is just an opinion. Everyone agrees that murder is a wrong fact, but this is a matter of looking at things from different angles. No one wants to murder some people for no reason. It is necessary to go back to this extreme behavior only under certain circumstances, so what people think of murder is wrong is just a common thought

the best Ethic i think

in my opinion, i think the Golden rule is the best Ethic. “The Golden Rule of ethics is that you should treat other people as you wish to be treated yourself” i think everyone in this world is equal, we should threat others very equaily. we are all human being, why should we threat others so special. because i am a peaceful man, so i would like to threat all the people in one way.

what is good and what is bad

in my opinion, i think good is the things that you can get benifits or the thing that can make you feel satisfied in your life. And the bad things is that the things will make you lose some valuable thing from yourself. The example of the good things is that i am 18 years old, so that i can do a lots of things that i can’t do in the past like driving or something else. And the bad things is my grandmother passed away recently, that makes me felt sad and i lost my grandmother forever. So the conclusion of the bad thing and good thing is that good things can let you gain benifit and the bad  thing can let you lose someting.

Tony‘s short blog

After we have read and understood so many lectures, we have learned a lot of principles and logic. These logics have gradually become part of our lives. Everyone has their own different views on different things, so their understanding of things has different logics. Under different logics, different conclusions can be drawn. For example, inductive paradox, wrong analogy, hasty generalization, will It is because of the conclusions that some different logics have come to, and these conclusions are obviously not to be taken as the opinion of all. In class, Mr.Macknight gave an example. He saw a large group of Chinese people wearing glasses. He summed up the rumors that all Chinese wear glasses, which is why many people have different things. The understanding, because they have different logic, makes their ideas and reality very different. Therefore, many things are not what some people think, and what the facts are. There is such a passage in a handout. “A change in this paradox is an attraction to rumors. Because the source of rumors is usually unknown, it is impossible to determine whether or not to believe the rumor. Very often it is deliberately spreading false and harmful. Proverbs to discredit opponents. This just proves that they spread rumors everywhere, smearing opponents or other things, and seriously affecting them in the absence of other things.

part 3-4

They found a little boy named anyus to do an interview about mathematics. Under their guidance and correction, the little boy succeeded in making a topic. Then they started a heated discussion based on the little boy’s ideas and understanding.

What is this, Anytus? Of all the people who set up to understand how to do us good, do
you mean to single out these as conveying not merely no benefit, such as the rest can
give, but actually corruption to anyone placed in their hands? And is it for doing this that
they openly claim the payment of fees? For my part I cannot bring myself to believe you;
for I know of one man, Protagoras, who amassed more money by his craft than Pheidias–
so famous for the noble works he produced–or any ten other sculptors. And yet how
surprising that menders of old shoes and furbishers of clothes should not be able to go
undetected thirty days if they should return the clothes or shoes in worse condition than
they received them, and that such doings on their part would quickly starve them to death,
while for more than forty years all Greece failed to notice that Protagoras was corrupting
his classes and sending his pupils away in a worse state than when he took charge of
them! For I believe he died about seventy years old, forty of which he spent in the practice
of his art; and he retains undiminished to this day the high reputation he has enjoyed all
that time–and not only Protagoras, but a multitude of others too: some who lived before
him, and others still living. Now are we to take it, according to you, that they wittingly
deceived and corrupted the youth, or that they were themselves unconscious of it? Are we
to conclude those who are frequently termed the wisest of mankind to have been so
demented as that?
Demented! Not they, Socrates: far rather the young men who pay them money, and still
more the relations who let the young men have their way; and most of all the cities that
allow them to enter, and do not expel them, whether such attempt be made by stranger or
Tell me, Anytus, has any of the sophists wronged you? What makes you so hard on them?
No, heaven knows I have never in my life had dealings with any of them, nor would I let
any of my people have to do with them either.

Tony part 5

in this part they finish their discussion about the viture and the knowledge vs belif

Well, if neither the sophists nor the men who are themselves good and honorable are
teachers of the subject, clearly no others can be?
I agree.
And if there are no teachers, there can be no disciples either?
I think that statement is true.
And we have admitted that a thing of which there are neither teachers nor disciples cannot
be taught?
We have.
So nowhere are any teachers of virtue to be found?
That is so

Their discussion still has no fixed answer, just make a decision in the proper sense.

part two

in part two ,they have a very deep disscusion about the vritue again and Scorate give Meno some example and told him the real reason why people did the evil things to their society. Scorate also told him what is virtue and what is quality. they also talked about the shape and the colour in part two

So all mankind are good in the same way; for they become good when they acquire the
same qualities.
So it seems.
And I presume, if they had not the same virtue, they would not be good in the same way.
No, indeed.
Seeing then that it is the same virtue in all cases, try and tell me, if you can recollect, what
Gorgias—and you in agreement with him—say it is.
Simply that it is the power of governing mankind—if you want some single description to
cover all cases.


in this part, they have the same idea of the initial virtue of all the people, people have the same quality but they have different virtue, so they will treat others in different way。They just look very ordinary on the surface, but they think completely differently from what they want to do. This is why they have the same quality but different virtues. Virtue is based on people taking the initiative. Made out, and quality can only be born by nature

the review after the reading

The main theme of part one is about virtue, Meno and Socrates were have a discussion about how the people express virtue at that time and the difference of people or object have different appearance but have the same quality or same appearance but different quality.Sometimes the conversation between the two of them is really difficult to understand, but they have more meanings that they say, you can understand a little.

But yet, son of Alexidemus, I am inclined to think the other was the better of the two; and I
believe you also would prefer it, if you were not compelled, as you were saying yesterday,
to go away before the mysteries, and could stay awhile and be initiated.
But I should stay, Socrates, if you would give me many such answers.
Well then, I will spare no endeavor, both for your sake and for my own, to continue in that
style; but I fear I may not succeed in keeping for long on that level. But come now, you in
your turn must try and fulfil your promise by telling me what virtue is in a general way; and
you must stop producing a plural from the singular, as the wags say whenever one breaks
something, but leave virtue whole and sound, and tell me what it is. The pattern you have
now got from me.
Well, in my view, Socrates, virtue is, in the poet’s words, “to rejoice in things honorable and
be able for them”5 ; and that, I say, is virtue–to desire what is honorable and be able to
procure it.
Do you say that he who desires the honorable is desirous of the good?
Implying that there are some who desire the evil, and others the good? Do not all men, in
your opinion, my dear sir, desire the good?
I think not.
There are some who desire the evil?
Thinking the evil to be good, do you mean, or actually recognizing it to be evil, and
desiring it nevertheless?
Plato’s ‘Meno’, tr. W.R.M. Lamb • Page 10 of 46
Both, I believe.
Do you really believe, Meno, that a man knows the evil to be evil, and still desires it?
What do you mean by “desires”? Desires the possession of it?
Yes; what else could it be?
And does he think the evil benefits him who gets it, or does he know that it harms him who
has it?
There are some who think the evil is a benefit, and others who know that it does harm.
And, in your opinion, do those who think the evil a benefit know that it is evil?
I do not think that at all.
Obviously those who are ignorant of the evil do not desire it, but only what they supposed
to be good, though it is really evil; so that those who are ignorant of it and think it good are
really desiring the good. Is not that so?
It would seem to be so in their case.
Well now, I presume those who, as you say, desire the evil, and consider that the evil
harms him who gets it, know that they will be harmed by it?
They needs must.

There are also some thing that stand from virtue,like desire of devil , everyone know desire but they just have different opinion on the desire of devil, so they will do the thing differently. someone may do something good to protect the society, and others may do something that only benefit to themselves without care others feelings.Virtue is different in the eyes of all people, they will make different things according to their understanding of virtue, and thus get different results. I think I already know the general meaning of this conversation. I have not considered the further aspects.I think I should read it a few more times so that I can have a deep understanding of this dialogue so that I will not be confused when I read it.All in all, the first part of the dialogue is mainly a dialogue about virtues derived from other conduct.