In pt. 5, Socrates and Meno have agreed that virtue cannot be taught because there is no discipline. however they are now stuck trying to figure out how people come to be good people or if they are good people at all. Meno questions Socrates with this “by what possible sort of process good people can come to exist.” (pg 42) The conversation continues and Socrates says people have guidance “they will be useful if they give us right guidance” (pg 42) This makes sense but at the beginning of the text, teaching was just helping the students remember or in other words guiding them so they know how to do it again. Does that not just leave us right where we started?